Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emmanuel Ishie Etim

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 16:30, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Emmanuel Ishie Etim

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A promotional puff-piece for the subject in which all of the source material has been over-sold.

1. africanentrepreneurshipaward.com listed as a mentor, not as a winner
2. olamildent.com listed as a discussion panel member
3. ladybrillenigeria.com lists participants, not winners, and is clearly a self-written biography submitted to the organisers - "professional excellence I had exhibited "
4. upenn.edu is just a conference participants list
5. thenigerianvoice.com lists him as one of 100 awardees of The Future Awards Africa, not as a Guardian of the Future as claimed

With every claim over-sold it's hard to see any credible claim to notability. Previous versions of the article have been created at APOSTLE EMMANUEL ETIM, Emmanuel Etim, Draft:Emmanuel Etim. Cabayi (talk) 08:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 08:31, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 08:32, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

• Hi and thank you for this. I created this page and I'm currently editing it, so all your comments are noted. Please hold off on summarily deleting the page while I find more verifiable third-party sources to support relevant claims (and remove those ones not supported by valid and non-hagiographical sources). Igwatala (talk) 09:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

• Comment - seems a bit swift and knee-jerk to have an AfD a day after the page was started. Maybe WP:DRAFTIFY? JMWt (talk) 10:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

JMWt, as noted in the nomination, Draft:Emmanuel Etim already exists. Cabayi (talk) 10:36, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

You are quite right, I missed that. I still think it is possible that a combination of the draft(s) and this page could be notable. I think the author should be given a chance to get it up to scratch. JMWt (talk) 10:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

That said, I know the subject is what we're talking about rather than the page. I'm just not sure that simply deleting this at an AfD is really giving the OP a fair crack of the whip. JMWt (talk) 10:45, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

JMWt, the AfD runs for a week and the OP is free to improve the article and request !voters to reassess their opinion (as I've informed them on my talk page). Is that not "a fair crack of the whip"? Cabayi (talk) 11:16, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

You are right. I've now !voted delete - I think the OP should be improving the draft as per my comments below JMWt (talk) 19:25, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

• Comment @JMWt just said what I wanted to say. I think passing admin may help if it warrants.  — Ammarpad (talk) 10:23, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
• Strong Delete The article is a pure hoax and only serves to promote. It fails Reliable Source and General Notability Guidelines. Zazzysa (talk) 11:04, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
• Delete Procedural delete since similar draft exists. On looking at the draft it is even more expansive than this article. Although there's significant promotional concern about even the draft content.  — Ammarpad (talk) 11:10, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
• Delete per previous comment ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 12:45, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
• Delete - as others have said, there is a fairly substantial draft which could be improved and submitted for review. As I noted above, I missed this originally. JMWt (talk) 19:25, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
• Strong delete Promotional article for the subject, whom is non notable, as he fails WP:GNG lacks WP:SIGCOV and does not satisfy WP:GOLDENRULE.Celestina007 (talk) 01:38, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Will resume work on the draft page. Thank you for all your input.Igwatala (talk) 21:14, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

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